The PAD's Blockade of Government House and Parliament

Re: The PAD's Blockade of Government House and Parliament

Postby speedlight on Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:31 pm

I don't really understand the Thai politics well ... can someone share with me.

The PAD by gathering and blocking Govern house are considered illegal assembly, disturb and endanger to the lives. In other countries like Malaysia or Singapore, these people will sure be round up by the police and put into Jail. For those notorious peopl who really disturb the peace of the country will be detained until further notice using the ISA (Internal Security Act) like the Malaysia used recently ... why the Thai police are not doing anything?

This is hurting the tourism industry and the economy.
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Re: The PAD's Blockade of Government House and Parliament

Postby triptrip on Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:39 pm

The whole getting "caught" thing engineered by Chamlong was meant to coincide with the waning popularity of the PAD cause. People are getting fed up with this nonsense and there is only so much propaganda of hatred you can spew to protestors. At some point, people will start to question their cause, even if one is paid to attend such meeting. worst, Thais generally have a short attention span so after months of sitting under the sun and smelling like \\ ////, one can fully understand their exasperation of not fulfilling their cause. Hence some drastic action needs to be taken to "arouse" the crowd once more. So now we have the next chapter of this odyssey, the entrapment.

Chamlong knows full well that the police will not wade through the crowd to arrest him. No sane person would dare to do it, let alone the poorly paid policeman. Chamlong himself set up the whole arrangement of being caught while "exercising his right" of voting in order to stoke the fire once more knowing full well the protestor will go all out to set him free, by hook or by crook. Now, once again, this sparks the light in the protestors to challenge the powers that be.

At the end of the day, Chamlong and Sondhi are merely the messengers of higher powers that play this game. it's all between the old rich Thai elites versus the newly rich Thais. This stand off will only end when the miracle of demi-god swooping down from heaven to save the nation from further bloodshed. Then the world will once again be shown how things works in Thailand and this will serve as a warning to the man in London.
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Re: The PAD's Blockade of Government House and Parliament

Postby robin on Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:18 pm

Rahat,
Thanks for the follow up.
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Re: The PAD's Blockade of Government House and Parliament

Postby Rahat on Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:11 pm

robin wrote:Rahat,
Thanks for the follow up.


You are welcome krub Robin.

Latest reports say 2 people have died as a result of the riots and over 300 injured. If these rebels wanted blood they've got it, and they have brought this upon themselves. I am not a big fan of this government, but at this point I hope they maintain their stance and not bow to pressure to resign or dissolve the house. That is not the solution to anything. The wrongdoers need to be brought to justice and law and order must be restored immediately. My condolences go out to the families of the victims.

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Re: The PAD's Blockade of Government House and Parliament

Postby who am I on Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:24 pm

DO YOU KNOW...

1. we have gas under the sea?
2. alot of foreigh ships comes in and buy those gas illegally?

I didn't know about this before. But THASIN knew a long time ago. I wish I have some stocks in PTT and be smart like THASIN.
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Re: The PAD's Blockade of Government House and Parliament

Postby Rahat on Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:33 pm

who am I wrote:DO YOU KNOW...

1. we have gas under the sea?
2. alot of foreigh ships comes in and buy those gas illegally?

I didn't know about this before. But THASIN knew a long time ago. I wish I have some stocks in PTT and be smart like THASIN.


.....and....what does this have to do with the pad's blockade of gov house and parliament?
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Re: The PAD's Blockade of Government House and Parliament

Postby GaryLess on Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:50 pm

As another 'know it all' foreigner I propose the following statements and observations and certainly opinions:

1. Do not underestimate the powerful support behind PAD.
There is a reason why police/army/government are afraid to challenge them.
2. PAD is an organisation promoting the interests of the 'old elite' (monetary and cultural),
which lost privelieges during the Taksin 'regime'. Mainly Bangkok residents.
3. Among those supporting PAD is the majority of mass media journalists and editors. This should be quite obvious from
several editorials in this publication, and also The Nation.
4. Taksin, when he was prime minister, had an absolute majority behind him in the parliament, and did pretty much what he wanted. Some of this was good, a lot was not.
5. This was not acceptable by the old elite, and a coup was staged. The constitution was changed, to ensure that Taksin and 'his cronies' could not win another election, but they did anyway.
6. Since it is impossible to return power to the old elite through parliamentary means, PAD chooses to stand outside the rules of democracy. (PAD stands for Power Against Democracy ;) .
7. Vote buying is an old tradition in Thailand, used by basically everyone. This is the first time :?: it is used as the main argument towards reducing democracy to a 70/30 split (70% nominees, 30% elected).
8. Another problem with Thai democracy is that there are too many ignorant people, particularly in the NorthEast, that vote for the wrong party. It will be much better once the chosen nominees take care of them, and they can go back to the rice fields together with the other buffaloes...
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Re: The PAD's Blockade of Government House and Parliament

Postby Teddy3943 on Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:04 am

I agree with this point of view. Furthermore I would say that the Thai Army claims a far too big role in politics. The army has to realize that they are an instrument of the Kingdom of Thailand and not their own kingdom. They are ordered by the government and they have to obey to the government. Going their own way, like they did at the start of this mob-siege by the PAD, unstabilizes the country, because they show that not the government has the power to control the army, but that they are own boss. Very bad and a proof of incapability an unloyalty by the army commanders. The army has to be loyal to the government wich is elected by the majority of the Thai people. I would consider their act as treason. They betray the government wich could not use the instrument the army is ment for. The commanders who are responsible for this should be prosecuted for treason.

I hope for this beautiful country that the time will come that there will be a powerful and wise government, wich has full control over the army as well as the police and all the necessary institutes to let the country work like a well oiled machine. To achieve this all parts of this machine has to cooperatively work together for the benfit of all citizens. And everyone should respect the democratic rules, wether you are happy or unhappy with the present government. So PAD GO HOME!!! Go to work and let the parliament en the senat do their job too.
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Re: The PAD's Blockade of Government House and Parliament

Postby oogleman on Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:30 am

The PAD are trying to take away the peoples right to choose their own leaders & government. If the people fall for it i will be dismayed.
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Re: The PAD's Blockade of Government House and Parliament

Postby memo on Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:04 am

As a farang who has been living in Thailand 7 years,

I think PAD and it's supporters accrossed the border, I am sure they dont know what they are doing.

In civilized countries this kind of problems are solved by a democratic way not by taking over the parliament house, government house. I have seen on the TV PAD supporters are fighting with some instruments, throwing the stones, using the sticks, kniwes, liquid explositions, it seems they are prepared and trained well. On BKK post I learned some of them have even small bombs. As far as I have seen on media also, the protestor fighters seem to be a gang members. I am curious who is financing these protest and activities..? What benefits will come from this conflict..? Instead of fighting with economic problems, eblablishing and keeping stabilization in the country people are fighting with the government. Sorry, this is not a democracy. PAD leader Sonthi also said that represantative democracy is not suitable for Thailand. Only the person who lost himself and cannot control his mind can disclose such opinions. All of the world is watching you...You are destroying your own country at this time when high tourism season about to begin.

I am very hopeful H.E. ////// will make a comment and the conflict will end.

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