Abhisit: at what price?

[Minnie]

Pachang, in Italy the poor southerners did just that.
The north was of a similar mind as the Bangkok elite, they soon found out how much they relied on the south, the north always resented the south, calling them, un-educated stupid peseants who didn't know any better....(sounds familiar) the workers who worked in Fiat, the dustbin men, the street cleaners, all those dirty manual jobs that the 'clean educated northerners felt it beneath them to do'. the workers went on a major strike.
The north stopped.
The factories stopped
The big rich families were not making money, they were not making money and their company shares fell and the roller coaster ride continued.
You don't hear the northerns whinge that much anymore..there is still a small fascists sect, but they will always be there.

Yellow shirt, thank you so much for the current news analysis of global economy, I think I really needed that..... laughbale if you knew what my work was.
What you and your other yellow belly friends seems so intent on not understanding is the following:
Global economy downturn is not the ONLY factor affecting Thailand.
Foreign Direct Investment has dried up because investors DO NOT have any confidence on the politics of Thailand.
The international community DO NOT agree with the Demons Rats who are in power.
If you think that politics has not affect on a country then you are sincerely myopic.
I have given here before many examples of companies who by their own admission have said yes we are retrenching somewhat ...BUT we are still investing all be it at a minor level in XYZ countries, ie Malaysia, Cambodia, Vietnam.....they never mention Thailand.
I have said before.
During an economic crisis a country like Thailand should be doing very well as its labour costs are relative in comparison to others, BUT the international community DOES NOT TRUST the current regime.
If you cannot or DO NOT wish to admit that your fascists leaders are having a detramental effect on Thailand then I can't help you. Your leaders are at this moment driving Thailand into serious debt, mark my words, the IMF will be asked to come back .... your leaders do not have the financial acumen to solve it.

[Minnie]

quotes from Bangkok Post today showing that investment is still going on in developing countries .. just NOT in thailand..BECAUSE of political strife


Hor Namhong, who is accompanying Hun Sen, said the premier would also hold discussions about rice, trade exchange and investments.

Kuwaiti premier Sheikh Nasser Mohammed al-Ahmed al-Sabah visited Cambodia and inked trade deals last August, while Phnom Penh is also looking into land-lease agreements with Kuwait.

Kuwait granted Cambodia a $546 million agricultural loan in August in return for crop production.

[Minnie]

quotes from Bangkok Post today showing that investment is still going on in developing countries .. just NOT in thailand..BECAUSE of political strife


Hor Namhong, who is accompanying Hun Sen, said the premier would also hold discussions about rice, trade exchange and investments.

Kuwaiti premier Sheikh Nasser Mohammed al-Ahmed al-Sabah visited Cambodia and inked trade deals last August, while Phnom Penh is also looking into land-lease agreements with Kuwait.

Kuwait granted Cambodia a $546 million agricultural loan in August in return for crop production.

[pachangamac042]

Dear Minnie, the yellow fellows do not get two important points. One, the economy did not stop. We are going through a crisis but money is still being invested every day. There is still demand for products being produced in Thailand or products which could be produced here in the future. The problem is how you will sell your products and if people want to buy from you. An other problem is, will future companies invest in Thailand or may they look for safer places?

The second point which the yellow clappers seem to forget is, that many international companies have lost important amount of money during the yellow circus, but I do not hear anything about the yellow government paying for this lost. They seem to be more interested to support the local companies which helped the PAD circus financially. Not sure how international companies will react to it, but my feeling is that they will not be happy with the situation and may look for more business and foreigner friendly countries in the future.

Many yellow patriots will say, who cares about the foreigners, we do not need them, we are anyways better then them. Well, they may be swallowing their words one day.

An other important point, which gets ignored by the government is the exchange rate here. It is as bad as it has not been since a very long time. On top of it have prizes been going up because of high fuel prizes, but many things stayed up. Two more criterias which are not helping at all to keep business and investment going in Thailand. But again, no reaction from government side. I wonder what they are waiting for, to start doing their jobs. Will they ever start? Or could it be, that there is nobody around who would know what to do and Mr T refuses to tell them how to do their jobs?

[pachangamac042]

GaryLess, for a fair election, you would need a fair and equal system, two things which do not exist here.

Well the system is fair and equal for the democrats. Accusations against demos vote buying are just swept under the carpet by the fair judges. But on the other hand, other parties will be prosecuted by the law.

For a fair election you would need a fair looser, an other thing which does not exist here. Poor rural vote buying is illegal, rich ministers vote buying is apparently ok. Not really equal, is it?

Thailand has the government wanted by some elites, the rich of the riches, the army, the judges and the ….. The rest of the country gets simply ignored. Fascist methods are being used, for keeping it that way. Keep the masses uninformed and keep on \\ ////*ng out their blood.

The democrats get even away with murder and terrorist acts, which I think tells it all.

R.I.P. democracy, the obese lady has sung, the opera is over, close the curtain and turn the page. Everything is alright and everybody is a happy chappy. Amazing Thailand…

[Just-1-Voice]

One of the things I used to say back in the U.S. is that we don’t need a politician as President, we need a Business Man. People would look at me as if I were from another planet when I would suggest someone like Bill Gates, Donald Trump, Lee Iacocca or Ross Perot. But what they failed to realize is that all these men are Extremely Successful business men who KNOW how run multifaceted businesses, and could finally put the American Economy on the right track.

Right now I would make the same suggestion for Thailand. Get rid of the inept politicians, who couldn’t run a booth in a local market without help, and bring in a qualified business man who can’t be bought, who knows how to run a “hard nosed” business operation, and who can help resolve the financial crisis in Thailand that is only going to get worse.

Right now we have Abhist, who is looking to the Chinese for money with one hand, while the other hand is spending without any real thought as to how to do it. Its like “Robbing Peter to pay Paul”, as we say in our country, and that never works.

To say things are “bad” is redundant. To say their going to get worse with the current policies in place is a forecast of what is yet to come. The sad part is that the ones who will be hurt the most are the ones who most need the help.

[pachangamac042]

Just-1-Voice, things will get much worse in the future for sure. But with so many clowns running the show it will be funny at least. And when things get worse in the future, who will be responsible for it? I give you 3 chances to respond and some help; Dr, fugitive, teacher, police officer! And the answer is???

Just-1, when did you move your kick the foreigners out topic? It is now under Thai general news!

[Just-1-Voice]

Pach.....

I didn't move my "Kick out the Foreigners" thread, and wondered where it was. Better go check and see if I can move it back here.

[villager]

Just-1-Voice, things will get much worse in the future for sure. But with so many clowns running the show it will be funny at least. And when things get worse in the future, who will be responsible for it? I give you 3 chances to respond and some help; Dr, fugitive, teacher, police officer! And the answer is???

Just-1, when did you move your kick the foreigners out topic? It is now under Thai general news!

Hey Mac, there must be some real clowns running Spains economy too, cos the word,s i have just read are DIRE, unemployment rocketing,no light at the end of the tunnel, GOVT injecting billions into the Spanish economy etc etc, maybe the PAD are over there too,LOLOLOL.

[villager]

hI Mac, just been reading in "THE ECONOMIST" Spain has over 3 million unemployed (13%) and many experts say it could raise even further to 16 or even 18% why do you think this has happened? Abhisit,? The Dems? the PAD? or a severe global downturn? it would APPEAR you are hardly going back to a bed of roses are you,LOLOLOL. of course if answering my question causes some embarrassment , by all means refrain ,Yellow shirt and I will fully understand,LOL.